tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post2976794506674142884..comments2023-10-23T08:42:13.279-07:00Comments on My Ice Cream Diary: Homeschooling and SocializationIce Creamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10720267761985766740noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-4517144239313565182008-03-17T10:47:00.000-07:002008-03-17T10:47:00.000-07:00thank you for your post. socialization is always ...thank you for your post. socialization is always the first question i get when folks find out i homeschool. having only one child, yes - homeschooling requires more work of me to make sure she gets opportunities, but we live in a HUGE city - opportunities are EVERYWHERE. betwen 2 dance classes, coop classes, playdates, trips to Disneyland and fieldtrips galore - finding time to do the dishes is a MUCH bigger issue than socialization for my child! LOL <BR/><BR/>i look forward to reading more from you.EnchantedMusinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988076009001115283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-26108537436682348182008-03-13T07:31:13.400-07:002008-03-13T07:31:13.400-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jeanettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311918064009586996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-88062822421664631202008-03-11T23:19:00.000-07:002008-03-11T23:19:00.000-07:00I thought of you today when my kids were tired and...I thought of you today when my kids were tired and throwing fits and some old guy asked if they were homeschooled. "What does that have to do with anything?" I asked...He just shrugged and kept loading my groceries in the car. Weird.<BR/>No sir, my kid is in public school. He's 5 and has been in a car all day and he's tired and antsy. Yes, I'm just a crappy mom, thanks SO MUCH for helping me feel inadequate as a parent in a public setting!!!!!<BR/>not that I'm bitter.......Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08521884755616115392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-81657009436517192662008-03-11T22:01:00.000-07:002008-03-11T22:01:00.000-07:00Charlotte,First I have to say that I loved having ...Charlotte,<BR/>First I have to say that I loved having you as Cookie's sunday school teacher!<BR/><BR/>And you just nicely summed up my personal idea of the differences between unhealthy and healthy homeschooling. Thank you.Ice Creamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10720267761985766740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-75838031781165370272008-03-11T20:36:00.000-07:002008-03-11T20:36:00.000-07:00Wow! Very comprehensive and informative post! My...Wow! Very comprehensive and informative post! My kids go to public school and there are plenty of socialization issues there as well. Having a lot of friends/family who homeschool, my thought is this: If you are homeschooling primarily out of fear (fear of the world, fear of letting your kids go, fear of not being able to protect them etc.) then it is the wrong reason and your kids will suffer. But if you are homeschooling primarily out of love (love of being with your kids, love of sharing your knowledge with them, love of hard work (!) etc.) then your kids will pick up on it and be enriched by it in a way that no public school teacher could do. Keep up the great work!Charlottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04339643338071382257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-84152049659226596292008-03-11T17:04:00.000-07:002008-03-11T17:04:00.000-07:00Oh, I just read your rant. I guess I'm just echoin...Oh, I just read your rant. I guess I'm just echoing those thoughts! :)<BR/><BR/>BTW, I just read a statistic in the paper that says 1 out of 4 Americans spends time in jail. hmmm.....I wonder if they get good socialization there?Sonjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693007110690293244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-58391977006781623332008-03-11T16:34:00.000-07:002008-03-11T16:34:00.000-07:00I'm also so glad you wrote this post. You did such...I'm also so glad you wrote this post. You did such a great job addressing the issue of socialization. I still have a lot to learn about this. I agree with everything you wrote and will only add that, in my experience and with observations I've made, kids (especially homeschooled kids) take a huge cue from parents when it comes to socialization. They copy how we answer and talk on the phone. They watch as we are making new friends, how we talk about people, how we talk TO people, etc. This places a considerably amount of responsibility on the parents, as you mentioned. But it can be fun!<BR/><BR/>We don't live in a metropolis. But my husband and I are very interested in culture and world travel. As a result, our children love it too. Also, I think children are born with out prejudice. They are so curious and willing to accept. It just takes a little exposure while they are young to make things seem less foreign. Conversely, it doesn't take much to lay down the foundation for prejudice and narrow mindedness when they are young. Again, parents have a huge responsibility in this, whether they homeschool or not.<BR/><BR/>I think the most important message to parents is this: You have a choice. There may be a time when one or the other choice of education works best for you and your child. Don't be afraid to do what you feel in your heart is right. I firmly believe that if we are keeping our child's best interest in mind, the rest, including socialization, will follow.<BR/><BR/>I'm going to link this post on my blog too! :)Sonjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693007110690293244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-33835837580053471002008-03-11T12:36:00.000-07:002008-03-11T12:36:00.000-07:00I checked out my first books on homeschooling at t...I checked out my first books on homeschooling at the library yesterday. Even though my son is only 8 months old I figured I should gain as much knowledge as I can NOW, before our family grows and the time to homeschool actually arrives. I really appreciate your posts on the topic. Thanks for sharing your insight.Team Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15372006403346525910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-40198559470076050952008-03-11T10:48:00.000-07:002008-03-11T10:48:00.000-07:00thank you for posting this. i'm going to link it t...thank you for posting this. i'm going to link it to my blog. i can't tell you how many times i hear this. you wrote it so well ( i enjoyed the "rant" as well!) and answered so many different issues.Michalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11516535861628199093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-88350145515024658122008-03-11T09:29:00.000-07:002008-03-11T09:29:00.000-07:00Wow, as a public school educator, I feel extremely...Wow, as a public school educator, I feel extremely informed after this post. You're doing a fantastic service to your little ones. Keep it up, and thanks for the great info.just jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218649675899000158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-23994535673740042532008-03-11T07:50:00.000-07:002008-03-11T07:50:00.000-07:00wonderful, well-thought out post. I always though...wonderful, well-thought out post. I always thought I would homeschool. The public school around the corner is so far doing a good job (only in 1st grade) but I have reserved the right to pull whenever I feel the need.<BR/><BR/>Our governator is trying to do away with homeschooling. CA needs help from him.Stephanie ODeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08618710485017373256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-14082710150113255792008-03-11T07:33:00.000-07:002008-03-11T07:33:00.000-07:00This is a great reminder...I just went through thi...This is a great reminder...I just went through this whole talk yesterday with someone who thinks I am crazy! I should have just run this off and given to him. I am new off of Sonja's blog...I think I will stick aroundAngelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07286262925329373894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-15149677431665699022008-03-10T18:44:00.000-07:002008-03-10T18:44:00.000-07:00Cocoa, When I deleted that post temporarily it del...Cocoa, <BR/>When I deleted that post temporarily it deleted the comments as well. I didn't think about that till after it happened and wished I had thought to copy it. Then I reposted it and others have commented but I still lost all those great comments by my homeschooling bloggers. (And I tried to make sure that I used your points in my more objective post so that they would still be noticed. Sorry about that.Ice Creamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10720267761985766740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-88230383423794019812008-03-10T18:40:00.000-07:002008-03-10T18:40:00.000-07:00Wonderfully written, Ice Cream! Brought out many p...Wonderfully written, Ice Cream! Brought out many points on socialization that I left in the post you deleted. I don't see the comment there anymore, though I see others that were left. Hmmm... wonder what happened? <BR/><BR/>Anyway, another point is when a homeschool child has social problems it's usually blamed on the fact that "It's because he's homeschooled. You know they're a little weird" but when you meet a child who is public schooled with social problems it's not blamed on the public school at all.<BR/><BR/>I've learned to ask people to clarify when they ask about socialization. That usually clears up a lot and quiet down any "mama bear" feelings that start to rise to the surface. <BR/><BR/><BR/>We live out in the boondocks so we rely heavily on church and church related activities (Young Women, Achievement Days) for socialization. There is also a homeschool group that gets together every Friday for swimming or bowling and every other Wednesday for a library/book club day. We also have field trips once a month.Montserrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13056974831892116493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-78453364344496913532008-03-10T13:34:00.000-07:002008-03-10T13:34:00.000-07:00Excellent, again.Honestly, compile all these posts...Excellent, again.<BR/><BR/>Honestly, compile all these posts and any other thoughts you have on the matter, and have it published.Allyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08232709719845543983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-79391780270135808512008-03-10T13:06:00.000-07:002008-03-10T13:06:00.000-07:00You put a great deal of thought into your post. T...You put a great deal of thought into your post. Thank you for it. It does seem like there are some strange homeschooled kids, but then I remember the kids I taught in high school that my heart ached for because they soooo didn't fit in. How much better off would they have been if they could have been learning in a different setting.<BR/><BR/>We have been fortunate to live in areas with a strong homeschooling presence and some businesses that have realized their market potential. My boys are involved in taekwondo and my daughter in gymnastics during the day besides a literature group (new) and church activities. There is also an astronomy class that we didn't take advantage of this year from a local college.<BR/><BR/>I am considering sponsoring a writing club next year for more scholastic associations, and I am also looking into TJEd for ideas.3 for schoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02512647913767303288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-69901040253287474582008-03-10T11:56:00.000-07:002008-03-10T11:56:00.000-07:00I know some people who did private schooling and i...I know some people who did private schooling and it seems most of the kids have better learning habits and are more smart than the average kid, but I have seen a bit of them turn out a little odd.<BR/><BR/>But a great idea I saw some people do is that they got toegther with other families that home schooled and would do a bit of classes together and I thought that was a great idea.<BR/><BR/>Espesally since my husband and I feel that some school are really lacking. I can definently see the pros of home schoolingMelissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07843200092492177826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-64122259545372609962008-03-10T11:20:00.000-07:002008-03-10T11:20:00.000-07:00Edi,That is so sad, and just wrong. I've met fami...Edi,<BR/>That is so sad, and just wrong. I've met families like that (though not so extreme) and I always feel so bad for the children.Ice Creamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10720267761985766740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-88166970925529904702008-03-10T11:03:00.000-07:002008-03-10T11:03:00.000-07:00I went to public school all my life and have alway...I went to public school all my life and have always been an introvert/shy type of person.<BR/><BR/>My dd is homeschooled and is a huge EXTROVERT! <BR/><BR/>Homeschooled kids that are shy and quiet and such - are not necessarily that way due to the schooling choice but that's just the way they are.<BR/><BR/>One family of homeschoolers at our church will not let my kids be friends w/their kids b/c they are so super scared of any outside influences. Sure it's their choice but it sure makes it awkward at church...at first my kids would try talking to their kids - until the mom intervened and told them to stop!!! We were new to the church and believe me this was a HUGE issue for me. No one else in the church is that way - even the other homeschoolers. It's just sad for the kids.Edihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01881967873653190545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-76750177806324761832008-03-10T10:48:00.000-07:002008-03-10T10:48:00.000-07:00Great information! I'll never ask the question ag...Great information! I'll never ask the question again :)<BR/>Thanks for sharing all this... I feel like I was being pretty ignorant and silly before!Amy Yhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06303953793008491241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-18833198420059876522008-03-10T09:55:00.000-07:002008-03-10T09:55:00.000-07:00It seems like nearly every day in life I am relear...It seems like nearly every day in life I am relearning the lesson you can't please everyone and nor will everyone always understand your point of view. I think if we are doing what is best for our children in our family, then others should well enough leave us alone :) !!<BR/><BR/>Excellent post!An Ordinary Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05497066145696617241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-53341057074315639442008-03-10T09:08:00.000-07:002008-03-10T09:08:00.000-07:00You know, I had fully intended to homeschool my ch...You know, I had fully intended to homeschool my children but as my oldest grew older, I realized that she needed far more than what I was able to give her. It used to bother me but, I got over it. As for the whole socialization thing? My thought is... it's easier when you have multiple kids. There's only so much play & interaction that can take place between two kids: a 5 year old and a 1 year old.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the post, I'm glad to see that you care so much about your kids to give them what they need (i.e. some in public school, some at home.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-42646196923728687512008-03-10T09:03:00.000-07:002008-03-10T09:03:00.000-07:00Misty- loved the comment you left on my Hockey pos...Misty- loved the comment you left on my Hockey post. . . we definitely have that in common ( : <BR/><BR/>BTW, I was wondering since you like ice-cream, if you've ever tried the cake flavored? It's one of mine and my daughter's favorites!<BR/><BR/>Have a great day!Shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576466522727800502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-66455345435258438682008-03-10T08:03:00.000-07:002008-03-10T08:03:00.000-07:00Too many typing errors, I'm reposting.Great post, ...Too many typing errors, I'm reposting.<BR/><BR/>Great post, Lizzy. I can see all of the time and effort that went into this post.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you.... kids are socialized in so many ways - - not just at home or just at school. My main objective with my own children is to see that they are growing into their own selves, not always in my presence. It's amazing to me to see the character and strength that has come from my children through this practice. So much of my children's growth has happened while at home, under my wing. I have been fortunate to have the best of both worlds. <BR/><BR/>We have a lot in common and share many of the same views.<BR/><BR/>Here's to great home based AND public education!Mistyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10497823064126116308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5139814941566752118.post-1304929362114019052008-03-10T08:01:00.000-07:002008-03-10T08:01:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mistyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10497823064126116308noreply@blogger.com